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A Proper Dialogue Between A Gentleman and a Husbandman

In a proper dyaloge betwene a Gentilman and a Husbandman complaynynge Echelon, putting to other their miserable calamite through the ambicion of the clergye was printed in two variations on the "Hans Luft" of Antwerp in 1529. This book appears in Robert Steeles list of prohibited books in the reign of Henry Steele calls it a "dialogue between a gentleman & a farmer." While clearly in the piers Plowman tradition, piers does not appear as a character. The first version has a 684 line acrostic poem open poem and dialogue that was written in the XVI century invention. After that, there is a genuine, late fourteenth century Lollard anti-clerical text, written CA. 1375-85. To all this, the second option adds another prose tract, probably from the late fifteenth century, which speaks in favor of the Bible in the vernacular. The communication starts with the master laments how his class was low-down and unable to help the poor, because long ago they were fooled by their land and wealth of the Church. Then the Husbandman acts for the confiscation of property of corrupt clergy, who prey on the poor. The belief in purgatory and indulgences is singled out as a favorite Scam of the clergy, who is ultimately to blame for the rising rents. Vinogradar offers question to Parliament in 1529 the "reform of Parliament", but the gentleman pulls, alluding to Simon fishs Supplicacyon for the beggars in Thomas moress rebuttal and defense of purgatory in the Supplycacyon of Soulys 1529. King John, Sir John Oldcastle, and Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester are good people, which ends badly for combating clergy. That is, the allusion to the burning of William Tyndale the New Testament in 1526 and Henry persecution against the Lollards. To protect Lutherans and opposition spiritual possessions from accusations of "newfangledness," the Husbandman is, what he takes to be the age-old treatise, i.e., in the late fourteenth century Lollard text that supports the disendowment of the clergy and ban them from secular offices. The husbandman places in the time of Richard II. Now I promyse the after my iudgement I haue not hard of soche an olde fragment Better groundyd on reason with Scripture. Yf soche auncyent thynges myght come to lyght That noble men hadde ones of theym a syght The world yet wolde chaunge perauenture For here agaynst the clergye cannot bercke Sayenge as they do thys is a newe wercke Of heretykes contryued lately. And by thys treatyse it apperyth playne That before oure dayes men did compleyne Agaynst clerkes ambycyon so stately. "I" Husbandman at the moment leads to the "I" of the Lollard treatise, which is attached at the end a little in order to make the transition, it will be revised to operate as a modern anti-Roman polemics.